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Things You Cannot Sell Online

What Cant You Sell Online? — What Can't You Sell Online?

Is it true that there are some things you cannot sell online? I was recently visiting with a gentleman who had made some haphazard attempts to sell online. After his short-sighted efforts, he had developed some doubts about marketing his products and services on the Internet. I think this happens to a lot of people who are unfamiliar with online marketing and had a share of online failure. This gave me some interesting thinking points.

I want to help shatter the myth some people hold that their product or service cannot benefit from targeted online exposure and careful branding. I also want to explain how dreadfully wrong it is to assume that your ideal customers cannot be reached here on the Internet.

I should note that even the items which are not ordered by way of ecommerce are still sold online. Sure, there are restrictions for selling some items online. Examples of things you cannot sell online are certain explosives and illegal drugs. Some products are restricted by location, such as alcoholic beverages, ammunition, and encryption software. This does not mean these are things that can’t be sold online, because there really isn’t anything sold that in some fashion or another is influenced by the Internet. In fact, in the real estate industry it is claimed that over 98 percent of home purchases in USA begin online. A much smaller number of sales are completed online, but the sale begins here, so it is an important place to be.

I feel dismay for companies missing so many opportunities because they just don’t know how much they don’t know. I feel ashamed for the ones who know it and do nothing about it.

In the instance of the gentleman who brought this to mind for me, he was convinced that the only people who will encounter his business online are bargain hunters seeking the lowest cost and do not seek value. I tried to explain that if this is the case online, it is also the case offline, and that those are the same people who turned his salesman down during their last sales call. When the salesman left, the prospective customer went to shop online, and where was he? He was nowhere to be found. I tried to explain the importance of brand recognition, improving customer experience, and gaining customer loyalty. It all kind of escaped his grasp like a greased pig when I explained that you can actually target a marketing message to qualified customers of your choice based on demographics and their propensity to buy your product or service.

I tried to help him better understand the value proposition his company offers, and how to make it more obvious to buyers. I explained that providing a value proposition is important, and that it will not make sense to everybody. It will make sense to some, and those are the ones we call customers. You will never reach them all, but the area you concentrate on are the people you can turn into customers. Then you find out how you did that, and you do it more.

Proof About a Product You Cannot Sell Online

A good web statistics system is great. You can pinpoint exactly who is on your website and what they are doing there. I phoned this gentleman today when I noticed somebody interested in his product offering. They searched Google for the term “where to buy airliner slate”, and they found my recent blog article titled “Smart Slate, Smart Airliner, and Other Interactive Slates“. They even read it for three minutes forty seconds. I called my prospective client on the phone and told him the actual name and location of the company who was searching for the product. I had a hot lead for him to follow up with. He told me “They are a customer of ours” and he gave me the impression that the information was not useful to him. It was almost an arrogant tone he gave me. He laughed it off as a fluke that I actually had one of his customers on my site seeking to buy his product offering.

He did not grasp that this is only one of many instances that can help him to know what is happening in his market, and to potentially avoid losing customers to somebody else. He really didn’t understand how valuable information like this can be when it is not just once, but many instances each day, each week, and each month. It blows my mind that he does not see the advantages the Internet can hold for his market. I mean, people are searching for his products … a lot, but they are finding me. I don’t sell that stuff, he does, and I have showed him the competitive advantages that good data, good targeting, good branding, and a good value proposition can provide. I gave him a tiny little example of this, and explained that it is one of many little advantages that add up to a huge advantage. This was a real case of specific information that could help him avoid losing an existing customer.

Pizza, Porsche, and Proctology Each Sell Here!

You can buy anything from a pizza to a Porsche online, and nearly every imaginable product or service is represented. People have sold items including dog poo, prostitutes, televisions, homes, and even whole cities using the Internet. I have not found an industry segment without an Internet success story to tell. Of course, there is the occasional skeptic who gets in his own way and believes he is the unlucky one who cannot sell his products or improve his market share online. Imagine that dreadful industry that is entirely overlooked by Internet users. It is that sort of product or service that the proprietors believe is only harmed by the Internet, and everything would be fine if all those dreaded websites would just go away. Do you know the type I am talking about?

I met another one like this who did not believe the Internet would provide value to their brand or influence their potential customers. Well, they knew it mattered enough to contact me and even sign a contract, but not enough to pay the bill. Somehow that all looked a bit different to them when they found that thousands of people were seeing this article about them when they searched for “Suture Express“. I had previously given them a clear example of Internet marketing with a real life example showing that people were actually searching to buy Ethicon surgical sutures online. They signed a contract for Internet marketing and SEO services with me and never paid for the services. Later, they thought I was a “kook” when I tried to explain the value of reputation management and taking their Internet reputation more seriously. In this case, they just didn’t realize I am a very smart “kook” with a lot of experience at Internet marketing and reaching the right people with whatever message is appropriate.

It seems that my most common encounters with this type of mentality comes from people who have expressed an interest in improving their online market position, but come to me with all of their own answers instead of wanting the right answers. They are the know-it-all about their market, and even people who specialize in marketing cannot tell them anything they don’t know. Other instances occur when people realize that the Internet is important to their business, but not important enough to do things well.

Their real fears seem to come out once they realize they will actually have to make an investment in their business. They want to know what I know, but they also want to have excuses to avoid paying to get what they want. So, they throw up this smokescreen response that they just don’t see how good branding and greater exposure to their market, and exposure to the people who influence their customers, could ever really be valuable.

Can You Name a Product That Cannot be Sold Online?

Is it the termite farmer? No, termite farmers use the Internet to promote their brand, and yes, to sell termites. If you are in the market to buy termites, you may order termites here. Maybe it is the proctologist? No, although they may not perform your surgery online, a proctologist can grow recognition as an authority in the field of butt medicine. I am having a hard time finding what cannot be sold online, so maybe you can help me in this fun and interesting quest.

I have given you just a glimpse of the mentality of those who get in their own way with believing the myth that their product is exempt from the long list of Internet success stories. Do you have any thoughts on this?

Suture Express, Inc. CFO Brian Forsythe Screws Wrong SEO

Brian Forsythe of Suture Express, a leading Johnson & Johnson Ethicon surgical suture supplier that promotes “cheap surgical suture supplies”, made a decision to rejuvenate the failing sutureexpress.com website. Naturally, he contacted a search engine optimization provider to suture the damage. In fitting with Suture Express’ core value of “cheap surgical supplies” he contacted a friend with whom he could make a great deal. What he did not realize is how much “cheap” can haunt a company, and especially as it involves selling surgical sutures and outright lying to the SEO provider and not paying him. Note: Stealing information from a search engine optimizer and website developer is not a good way to do more business. What amazes me is that some companies still fail to grasp the reach of the Internet or the power of truth against fraud.

Suture Express Cheap Johnson & Johnson Surgical Sutures? Yes Cheap Surgical Supplies!

Brian Forsythe claimed that Suture Express paid $150,000 to build sutureexpress.com and admitted that they made some pretty big marketing mistakes. Forsythe set out to make it right, but only made it worse when he contracted with a skilled SEO and did not pay the bill. The prior costly marketing mistakes made by Ed Kuklenski, Suture Express’ CEO at the time of the $150,000 disaster yielded only $50,000 gross revenue in the following year according to Forsythe. Forsythe stated that customers had refused to use their website and that it was too slow and ineffective in meeting the Suture Express customer needs and expectations.

It seems that cheap did not fit the bill in this instance, so the fax machine is still the primary method of taking orders. Forsythe claimed that the CEO, Ed Kuklenski had refused to present the proposed budget for site redevelopment, search engine optimization, and social media marketing services to the board for approval. Forsythe cited that since Ed Kuklenski had previously made too big a mistake on the website development that it would shame the CEO to request further money to rectify the mess. Instead, the company CFO, Brian Forsythe, decided to structure payments toward the proposed services in smaller amounts that would each come under the limit that must be approved by the board. Forsythe signed what was to have been the first of multiple contracts and claimed that payment had been sent. Brian Forsythe lied, the checks never came, and he stopped taking calls.

Is Suture Express a Fraud?

I am not an attorney, but what Brian Forsythe did on behalf of Suture Express as the CFO would probably stand out bad in any court of public opinion. Not only did Forsythe agree to a series of contracts to circumvent his board, he also signed a contract and said that the check was in the mail.

With a signed contract in hand and the Chief Financial Officer’s word that the check had been sent, it seemed safe to produce a report and a plan to achieve Suture Express’ Internet marketing goals. I provided the report, and Suture Express received the benefit of initial plans to improve their search engine ranking. Again, I am not an attorney, but I do recall hearing terms like “Theft by Deception” and “Fraud” somewhere. I am not sure what legal terms apply, but in any case, good business ethics do not seem to be this company’s strong point.

Beating the Surgical Suture Supply Competitors

Suture Express’ ill-considered plan to one-up the competing surgical supply companies had all the making of failure from the very beginning. Stealing from a top-level SEO just sealed the deal. This should be no surprise from a company that claimed to produce between six and seven hundred million per year in revenue (you believe that, right?), yet bragged in their marketing about using duct tape to fix an office toilet seat rather than buying a new one. That is how cheap they are, and they are proud of it. Ladies, can we hear from you on this topic? They are using duct tape to fix a toilet seat, but spent $150,000 on a website that does not work and irritates customers. Sorry ladies of Suture Express, the money for your toilet seat is at sutureexpress.com. Go there when you need to pee, like the rest of the surgical suture supply people around the world.

I am I kidding? No, they actually used the duct taped toilet seat in their marketing. Sure, people having surgery and hoping to live through it probably want that kind of “cheap”. That makes up for wasting $150,000 on a website, for certain.

Suture Express Cheap Sutures Acquired by “Diamond Castle Holdings LLC”

In what I can only imagine as a panic, Brian Forsythe and key operatives in the Suture Express marketing team decided that after costly failed attempts at selling surgical supplies online, they had to do something to advance their cheap surgical supply company. Instead of doing business with integrity, such as honoring a signed contract with the SEO, maybe the best thing to do was to sell the company again. I imagine it to sound something like this:

“Let’s sell Suture Express again! Selling a surgical suture supply company seems to work well. It has worked before, and to heck with Suture Express’ reputation, this is millions of dollars. We can buy a new SEO with that kind of money, and the new shareholders will never know better. Shareholders don’t get the Internet anyway.”

I can actually kind of expect this kind of logic from these people, because the company who purchased Suture Express in January 2010 is named Diamond Castle Holdings LLC. Really, a diamond castle is what people want to build when they buy cheap surgical supplies, right? Diamond Castle acquired Suture Express in a leveraged buyout from Code Hennessy & Simmons LLC. Does anybody want to guess the shareholders of Code Hennessy & Simmons LLC and Diamond Castle Holdings LLC? I’ll bet we can find some pretty classy cheap surgical suppliers in there somewhere. I can imagine the pride they all shout about at the shareholder meetings. Can you make up a good cheer to suit this?

Ethicon Surgical Supply Truth, with Suture Express

What I know today answers a lot of questions of how America’s health care system is in shambles. I waited well over a year from the time that Brian Forsythe at Suture Express told me directly that a check was in the mail before I decided to share the truth. I never wanted to battle with the huge health care industry or to hurt a one-time friend who suckered me into it. In over a year of waiting for that check to arrive and watching Suture Express being sold twice for millions of dollars each time, I had to shake my head and wonder what went wrong. There were many instances when I missed what I knew as my one-time friend, Brian, who had served as the CEO, CTO and CFO of Suture Express, and any other position he could regain in the next sale of his company. He gained millions of dollars by selling a company and effectively reselling it multiple times. Some people call this genius, but some people would call him a conman. I did not judge him, because I knew him as a friend who came to me when he needed to market a company that had made huge and costly mistakes.

I should explain that Brian Forsythe was one of the people I credit the highest with my learning to drive race cars. I met Brian when I was learning to master driving Corvettes. As you can imagine, I trusted Brian Forsythe. We have been just a few feet apart in our Corvettes at 150 miles per hour and taken high speed turns where mistakes count dearly. I don’t do this with people I do not like or respect. After all, I have a family to come home to.

Brian Forsythe Porsche Club and Corvette Race Car Driver

Brian is an amazing race car driver, and he instructed me in driving to the absolute limits a Corvette can withstand. He has been in a car with me at 150 miles per hour and has coached me when I placed 4th in a competition with top drivers from all around the world. He was the guy who once said “Mark, you made the quantum leap today, and you will never see that much improvement in your driving skill again.” He was also the guy who consoled me as I frantically worried that I had finished a time trial at less than my capability. He had been timing me and assured me beyond my tears that I had done a smashing job. Yes, race car drivers are close like brothers, so it actually does trouble me to say how badly this man conducts business. It means that I will never see my friend on a racetrack for fear that he will treat human life the way he does his business … like a true liar and cheat.

Yes, you read it correctly, and I will defend it in a court of law … Brian Forsythe of Suture Express is a liar. I cannot say how often he does it, but I can prove multiple instances of Brian lying to a friend, so you go ahead and make your judgments how you like. I always figured that if a man will lie to his friend, it is generally a reflection of how he will treat people in business as well.

My opinion is that Ed Kuklenski, Brian Forsythe, Kurt Rall, Steve Boyer, and the rest of the executive team and marketing staff at Suture Express probably could have done well to just own up to their contract instead of selling out the little guy who just wanted to help his racing buddy.

When people tell the truth, there should be no harm to the person reporting it. Fairness is subjective, but factual data should never hurt. The day that the truth becomes damaging to the truth-teller, is the day I will give up and stop doing business. If you do not like the truth, stop reading my blog right now, because you would probably not like me. If you are in the Ethicon surgical sutures supply industry, the truth may either upset you, or it may delight you. In the end, it is only the truth.

I wonder how Diamond Castle Holdings LLC’s shareholders will feel about their acquisition. I don’t wonder too much, because I think if anybody facing a life-saving surgery knew that their sutures were building a diamond castle, that their holdings would perhaps include holding their breath and waiting for some surgical supplies by a company with more integrity. Really … Diamond Castle Holdings? Are you kidding me? Is that part of the big healthcare reform thing we keep hearing about?

How many people here on my blog want to finance a Diamond Castle when they get sick and need a doctor to stitch them up?

A Surgical Supply Question for Johnson & Johnson

Do you generally do business like Brian Forsythe at Suture Express? I wonder if you can sell any sutures that can stitch up this surgical marketing mess Brian and his coworkers made. I really wonder how Johnson & Johnson looks at companies promoting their Ethicon line of surgical sutures in this way. Will I get any answers?

About Surgical Suture Suppliers

I doubt that surgical sutures suppliers are all so shady. I would be delighted to assist a suture supply company like Ethicon by Johnson & Johnson, Suture Direct, Novartis, Angiotech, MPS Medical Supply, DemeTech or others.

I would like to add that I do not often say unkind things about companies or friends. This is an instance where I believe that it is in the public’s interest and that Suture Express’ shareholders, prospective customers, and even competing surgical suture suppliers should know what happens when you treat people with dishonesty. Especially the ones who already proved they know their way around SEO. Just see my comment on the article “Ethicon Sutures: Endo Surgical Sutures” to see what I mean.